新大陆

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主演:马克斯·冯·叙多夫,丽芙·乌曼,埃迪·阿克斯贝里

类型:电影地区:其它语言:其它年份:1972

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 长篇影评

 1 ) 有份量的记录人类移民历史艺术作品

自从人类产生,便一直在移民和殖民,但是,北美大陆的移民具有划时代的意义,它既是移民,更主要的是开拓蛮荒的殖民,第一代移民筚路蓝缕终老在新开拓的土地上,却是一天都没有享到收获的福利,支持他们的唯有“我们的后代将不会对出生在这里感到失望”,—— 这是电影里令人动容的一句台词,为殖民者赋予了神圣的光辉。尽管,当时这些文盲也许仅仅朦胧意识到,他们连英语都说不好,准确的文字表达更加不可能。

随着人类掌握了越来越多的生产生活技术,可供人类开发的处女地却是越来越少,北美大陆就是这样一块地方。我们不要被北美开发之后的其他地区拓荒史迷惑,没有一个地方想北美移民一样是世界各地自由民自发形成的,后来的殖民多多少少被政府引导,获得了政府的资源,从一开始就是成熟地区向蛮荒地带的延伸,不可能产生脱胎换骨的新社会形态。同时,这代北美移民之后,新移民总是在城市登陆开始定居(最大的登陆点就是纽约),获得城市资源,即使是西部大开发也是带着城市资源伸出殖民的触角,新殖民地的生产技术、资源、社会管理方式都来源于已有的城市。澳洲、南非、中南美洲的殖民也与北美有本质的不同。

这部长达三个多小时的电影完整记录了一个家庭的到来和离世,用各种细微入至的小故事小片段把人生串联起来,告诉我们普通人的一生就那么平平淡淡,又最终拼凑出精彩。这个功力太出色了,我们绝大多数的人生就是这个样子,不是说普通人没有高光时刻,而是人生故事从来都不会是前后呼应,一条或几条主线串成因果关系的故事,基本是离散的无逻辑的。我觉得,需要刻意编排因果关系的叙述,后期加工的成分太大,它的人物形象一定是很多杰出人物的亮点汇聚而成,写这样的故事与前者相比容易多了。

电影里为了刻意表现普通人的平凡,居然忍痛将男主排斥到南北战争的漩涡外,等于是将随手可拾的故事宝盒弃之不用,担心传奇故事改变电影平淡人生的基调,然后依然讲情节驾驭得丝滑精彩,这又是一份令人惊叹的艺术功力。

说了这么多,不成章法,就是要表达对电影导演和编剧的敬意,居然电影可以这样拍,电影可以对人类历史做这样深刻的记录,太了不起了。

 2 ) [Film Review] The Emigrants (1971) 8.3/10 and The New Land (1972) 7.7/10

Swedish filmmaker Jan Troell’s categoricalpièces-de-résistance, a diptych, 7-hours long saga based on his fellow countryman, the literature titan Vilhelm Moberg’s THE EMIGRANTS ensemble.

Divided into THE EMIGRANTS and THE NEW LAND, this 19th-century epic holds a dear look at the travails of an ordinary Swedish household, the Nilsson family, resides in the Småland hinterland, when (mostly natural) adversity mounts against their livelihood, the eldest son Karl Oskar (von Sydow) mulls over the prospect of emigrating to the United States. A proposition deprecated by his wife Kristina (Ullmann) initially, but when poverty and hunger is aggravated by the premature death of one of their brood, she eventually accedes, joining their emigrating pack are Karl Oskar’syounger brother Robert (Axberg), his farmhand friend Arvid (Lindstedt), the family of Kristina’s uncle Pastor Daniel Andreasson (Edwall, a straight-up hard-hitter, brilliantly bringing about an air of smug virtuosity that treacherously verges on hubris), who is at loggerheads with the supercilious local parish clergy for preaching to the fallen ones (viz. those who are deemed not worthy of Christian gospel), among whom a former prostitute Ulrika (jazz chanteuseMonica Zetterlund), now a reborn woman, also partakes in the trek with her teenage daughter Elin (played by Monica's own daughter Eva-Lena Zetterlund).

THE EMIGRANTS itself can be bisected into two halves, before and after the family’s embarkment for the state of Freedom, during the former, Troell introduces the hardship and inequity (religious parochialism and mistreatment) with a pastoral equanimity (occasionally lard with invigorating drumbeats) and purveys his main characters with sufficient impetus for their longing for a reset button in an idealized country where everyone is (purportedly) being treated equally and fairly, especially for the young Robert, it is the California gold rush beckons him, and supports him against the cavalier abuse he receives on a daily base when working as a farmhand.

Once their journey kick-starts, a looming nostalgia begins to sweep the cohort, Troell (who is also presiding over the cinematography department) fixes the valediction shot with a subdued solemnity, no goodbyes, tear-infused eyes, lingering looks are deployed, just a long-shot of the elderly parents seeing their children off in front of their house, incorporating the place into their final adieu, and the impact is ineffable.

Tellingly, THE EMIGRANTS' most accomplished passage is theten-weeks trans-Atlantic voyageon a wooden brig, and Troell valiantly re-enacts its sordid state of affairs with swingeing maritime verisimilitude when most passengers are fallen victims of sea-sick, life is snuffed within a two-by-four space, by scurvy or even quinsy (a pertinent reference to today’s illegal immigrants’ ordeal on the sea). Here Liv Ullmann holds court in two magnificent scenes, one is Kristina'saltercation with Ulrika, both actress are emotively unsparing, and letting out their prejudice and retorts once for all, which also presciently serves as a catalyst for their eventually best-friends transition; the other is when Kristina, apparently in extremis, exchanges with Karl Oskar their fondness, as if for the last time, by confessing that they are each other’s best friends, a superlative affirmation that true love does exist thanks to the two players’ most poignant delivery.

Once the survivors touches the terra firma but incognita, they are still miles away from where they will start life anew, hopping on the train and later a steamer, than on foot, when they finally reach their destination in Minnesota, their first dream is dashed by a boastful liar who never expect his lie will be debunked in his face, and THE EMIGRANTS finishes when Karl Oskar finds their new land under their new identities, American homesteaders.

Right picking up where its predecessor leaves,THE NEW LAND takes place entirely in the new land, where the Swedish emigrants forming a somewhat enclave, mostly living among themselves, which brings about a problematic issue about the story’s sense of locality and Troell’s inaction of alleviate this anonymity, if it is not for the random appearances of the indigenous Indians, one can safely surmise that the household is still live in their homeland, with very similar sylvan exuberance and harsh winter-time, and not much foreignness to interact with, in a way, it takes the shine off one of the story’s focal points: displacement.

Yet, what THE NEW LAND excels in, is that oater flashback of Robert, who manages to stay alive just long enough after a futile gold-digging attempt with Arvid, a sounding slap in the face to the wide-eyed daydreamers, the pair is saddled with the same drudgery and hardship (not to mention Robert'spotluck is rooked by deception)that ultimate will cost them both their young lives, here Troell launches a more hallucinogenic experiment in accentuating the pair’s delirium and exhaustion when wandering in the desert, to admirable effect.Eddie Axberg has weathered convincingly in honing up Robert’s tale of woe, and his final resignation with fate effectually brings a lump in one’s throat.

Life goes on, as Karl Oskar’s household finally prospers, a God-fearing Kristina turns out to be benighted enough to risk her own life for the sake of procreation, indoctrinated as a wife’s sacrosanct duty, even after receiving the doctor’s warning that another pregnancy would become her undoing, together with a less disinterested depiction of a wanton slaughter during the Sioux Uprising, by suggestion that it is at the expense of those white homesteaders’ hospitality upon which the Indians conducts their retaliation, THE NEW LAND’s luster starts to ebb away, notwithstanding a show-stopping Max von Sydow consistently radiates with plebeian bonhomie, sympathy and mettle from stem to stern of the entire roman-fleuve.

referential film: Ingmar Bergman’s FANNY AND ALEXANDER (1982, 8.5/10).

 短评

淘金部分剪辑上看着蛮爽的

4分钟前
  • XEcstasy
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这个下部,时间线上紧紧承接上部,内容更多,现实更残酷。尤其争议极大的北美拓展史,无论对于任何肤色人种,都是一部血泪史,尤其印第安原住民的挣扎,演变成一部巨大冲突的流血史。也许很难用片言只语去完全评判这段北美拓展史,摈弃说教,把思考留给观众,这是一部好电影需要的其中一个特征。

6分钟前
  • 老珂
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真是沉得住气啊,音效很揪心。忘记了瑞典文,只会英文。这可真他妈叫人哀伤啊!

7分钟前
  • vivi
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大爱这套CC

10分钟前
  • spaceman
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虽然玩心和野心比《大移民》更大,也更冗长,但还是很淳朴很实在;导演钟爱大长焦和推来推去的变焦;特洛尔的大长戏的体量倒不大,但每一场戏都有充足的时间去“荡”,节奏舒缓,情感浓郁,屁股发麻。

15分钟前
  • 影呆
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在新的大陆上构建新的家园。崭新的田地,辛勤的双手,动乱的历史与狂热,都被记载下来。一张张面孔从时间轴上被划掉,看到结尾,令人动容。

19分钟前
  • LoudCrazyHeart
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一生

24分钟前
  • 尘世流年
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Jan Troell拍戏剧冲突确实不大在行,其他倒是没太多可挑剔之处,结尾也有触动到。视觉上的精华毫无疑问被库神吸收到了Barry Lyndon。可惜看不到福特的版本

28分钟前
  • Strategic_Scien
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Liv Ullmann和Max von Sydow演的史诗,我的豆瓣友邻居然没有人看过。也许比他俩演的伯格曼都更好,at least much closer to home。跟上部The Emigrants一起,估计是我今年看到最好的电影。RBG去世痛哭的一晚。

30分钟前
  • Ma Jolie
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[192min] 我相信这部电影在影像风格上对泰伦斯马利克有影响,而且在处理宗教性的内容和展现生命之伟大等方面都有共同之处,大移民是呈现因,而新大陆则是揭开了果,自然朴素的镜头让整个电影浑然一体,然而在影片的内容上还是有很强的争议性,毕竟在故事上带有强烈的瑞典移民视角,加上了印第安人残忍剖腹孕妇的情节,还有关于女性的部分,克里斯蒂娜在被检出身体怀孕会危及生命时认为自己没有用处,最后还是因怀孕而死,这些情节还是没有超脱出时代的价值观。

33分钟前
  • 远方的咆哮女郎
  • 较差

特诺尔的史诗下部聚焦移民之后在美国的生存图景,其中与印第安人的战争、加州淘金热、南北内战等美国近代史的大事件穿插,早期移民艰辛的开拓史,与第一部很多生活化场景展示相比,这部更加注重叙事,对手的特写变成了对脸的特写,对白也精简了不少,镜头运动也复杂起来了,蓝光修复真好

37分钟前
  • 幽灵不会哭
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202.36

38分钟前
  • 豆友66
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《大移民》+《新大陆》:画面很美很田园,也很残酷。愿把他乡作故乡时,就是乡愁的开始。

41分钟前
  • 合纥
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7分,整体感觉和大移民差不多,甚至还要更差一点,两部电影都实在是太长了,本片更凸显这一特征,从头到尾都是平淡到不行的叙述风格,除了印第安人和淘金热回忆这两段有点戏剧冲突以外也是相当平淡,观影体验一般,不过还是能get到导演想要传达的有关于移民和那个年代美国社会的一些东西。果然不应该刚恢复看电影就看这种三个多小时的艺术电影。。。

44分钟前
  • 罚款时间y
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相较于《大移民》,想表达太多的内容,也使用了更多的电影技法,反而失去了原有的纯粹,那种感动多少失去了,甚至有了点厌烦。

48分钟前
  • 最爱百年孤独
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生存,是横亘在所有物种面前的终极命题。投身于这场艰苦卓绝的竞赛,却始终无法寻获灵魂的安宁。声音占据了更甚于前作的地位,在多个看似平常的时刻,发挥了至关重要的作用。迁徙加西进,缩影了一个标识性年代;欲望之轮滚滚依旧,驶往无人知晓的末日旅途。好似无数个版本的《出埃及记》,徒劳地在推动大圆石的救赎之路上轮回。

52分钟前
  • 麻麻睇
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照《美国种族简史》的说法,第一代移民绝大多数是文盲,电影里弟弟给哥哥写信还能理解,哥哥自己能读懂就不合理了。

54分钟前
  • mobydick
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The New Land (1972) Criterion (1080p BluRay x265 10bit Tigole).mkv 8.62G

58分钟前
  • 空空
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在这部里多了些炫技但是感情的流露却不如大移民,感觉导演拍的美国部分或者说小说写的美国部分更多的是来自于历史书而非在那片土地上的真情实感。这部里真正投注感情的角色其实只有克里斯蒂娜,这个自从踏上了美国的土地就得了思乡病的女主角也成为了导演的代言人。PS罗伯特和阿维德总让人想到人鼠之间

1小时前
  • 秦诺诺
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上下两部,加起来整整六个小时的瑞典电视剧,拍得足够精细,节奏也足够慢。CC#797

1小时前
  • 怪力比多兽
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